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| Posted by: Chazwaza 12:19 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - PlayWiz 12:01 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| Fun to note that Judy Holliday also won a Tony for a comedic role, 7 years later in Bells Are Ringing, beating Julie Andrews in My Fair Lady. Of course we all know what show/role/performance most people looking back would assume would have or should have won, and Bells Are Ringing hasn't had nearly the life or legend or love that MFL has enjoyed as a show to produce, or as cast album(s)... and the movie of Bells Are Ringing is barely remembered and had nowhere near the success of the My Fair Lady movie, though ironically Judy Holliday did get to play her role in the BAR movie and Julie Andrews did not. (though the film of Bells is quite different, I think, and the film of MFL is nearly the same as on stage) That 1950 Oscars race is a fascinating one, and it really is a shame all those performances had to compete against each other... each one is an utterly iconic and deeply deserving of an Oscar. |
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| Also Whoopie Goldberg in "Ghost" | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:31 pm EDT 05/03/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - Chazwaza 12:19 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| So deserving of her own post. Molly, you in danger girl. | |
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| Marisa Tomei in "My Cousin Vinny" | |
| Posted by: KingSpeed 08:30 pm EDT 05/03/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - Chazwaza 12:19 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| One of the best comic performances by an actress ever. So deserving of the Oscar. | |
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| 'All About Eve' vs. 'Sunset Blvd.' | |
| Last Edit: WaymanWong 12:30 am EDT 05/03/24 | |
| Posted by: WaymanWong 12:28 am EDT 05/03/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - Chazwaza 12:19 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| Katharine Hepburn (''The Lion in Winter'') and Barbra Streisand (''Funny Girl'') famously tied for Best Actress at the 1968 Academy Awards. However, I've always wished that Bette Davis (''All About Eve'') and Gloria Swanson (''Sunset Blvd.'') had tied earlier at the 1950 Oscars. Frankly, ''All About Eve'' and ''Sunset Blvd.'' also should've tied for Best Picture (and both inspired lesser Tony-winning Best Musicals). |
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| re: Roger Bart | |
| Posted by: PlayWiz 11:52 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - Chazwaza 12:19 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| Of course, the year of "My Fair Lady" and "Bells Are Ringing" also featured shows like "The Most Happy Fella", "Li'l Abner" and "Candide" and is pretty much considered at the zenith of the Golden Age. It is that true that "Bells" is dated now because its central premise of an answering service is antiquated technology now, but the film version still is enjoyable as a now kind of historical set piece. Plus, the show produced several standards were very popular at the time and that are still sung. While Julie Andrews became a big star with her Eliza, and the show was a massive success, Judy Holliday was already a big movie star at the time, returning to the stage. Also, she was beloved -- there are stories of people waiting at the stage door to say goodnight to her because she seemed like such a nice, lovely person which came through via her character in the show. I think it took "Mary Poppins" and "The Sound of Music" later on for Andrews to be similarly beloved to add to her being admired. Also, "My Fair Lady" is a comedy like "Bells", just a much more sophisticated one. | |
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| re: Roger Bart | |
| Last Edit: Chazwaza 02:03 pm EDT 05/02/24 | |
| Posted by: Chazwaza 02:02 pm EDT 05/02/24 | |
| In reply to: re: Roger Bart - PlayWiz 11:52 am EDT 05/02/24 | |
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| I'm sure Holliday was amazing in Bells Are Ringing on broadway, and I don't doubt that she deserved the Tony, or that I might have voted for her even over Andrews. And yes, My Fair Lady is a comedy, but not like Bells Are Ringing. They are different kinds of comedy requiring different kinds of performances, asking different things from the audience, and trying for different things. But both are wonderful, though yes MFL is more sophisticated and ultimately a much higher quality show if you ask me. |
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