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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | owk 10:49 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - lowwriter 10:45 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| Amazing to me that anyone takes either of them seriously. Other than as a business matter, to whatever degree the Times critic still influences business. What a pair of coots. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | lowwriter 10:52 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - owk 10:49 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| I agree somewhat but if the Times likes a show that will cost me at least $100 to see and I'm on the fence, I am somewhat influenced about buying a ticket or not if the crtics are enthusiastic. I have heard mixed things about this production, though, and Burstein's performance, so I'm not convinced by Isherwood's rave. Espcially since he's steered me wrong on several plays. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 11:08 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - lowwriter 10:52 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| "I'm not convinced by Isherwood's rave." How about by the near unanimity of the raves? I think it is unwise to pin your decision on seeing a show to a single review, unless you are convinced it is someone you always agree with (and clearly that's not Ish for you) | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | lowwriter 11:37 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - ryhog 11:08 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| Actually I've read three mixed reviews already and several who found Burstein too low-key. And three friends didn't like it so much. I saw a wonderful production two years ago at Stratford so I'm just not running to see this. And it's playing in such a huge house that eventually I'll be able to see it more easily when the holidays die down. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 11:58 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - lowwriter 11:37 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| >> I've read three mixed reviews already where? | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 01:42 am EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - enoch10 11:58 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In addition to the ever-controversial Matthew Murray (who I think of as something of a pushover), there are also Linda Winer (more positive than not, but certainly with reservations), Dziemianowicz (four stars out of five, but with enough reservations that I suspect his review won't make a lot of people get on the phone or online to buy tickets), and Rizzo in Variety. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | lowwriter 06:09 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - AlanScott 01:42 am EST 12/21/15 |
| Jeremy Gerard at Deadline didn't like it much either. But David Cote at Time Out loved it. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | enoch10 03:27 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - AlanScott 01:42 am EST 12/21/15 |
| well, i don't want to argue about it but i don't know of any review that doesn't contain some complaint about something. that doesn't always translate into "mixed" for me. i don't feel like going back to see what i may have missed but my impressions from what i remember reading is the reviews were very good. perhaps i got that wrong. wouldn't be the first time. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 03:43 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - enoch10 03:27 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| I read plenty of reviews that contain few or even no complaints. I'm sure I could make a list of recent reviews from a variety of sources on a bunch of different shows in which no important reservations (or even none at all) were voiced. But I also read reviews that contain complaints and yet I come away feeling that the review is nonetheless extremely favorable. I didn't feel that way about the reviews I cited of this current Fiddler. I felt that they were mixed to modestly favorable. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | TheOtherOne 04:57 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - AlanScott 03:43 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| Agreed -- and Dziemianowicz actually gave it three & 1/2 stars, not four. | |
| Link | Fiddler On The Roof review |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 04:40 am EST 12/22/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - TheOtherOne 04:57 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| Ah, I read a cut and paste of it, I didn't actually read it on the site. The cut and paste listed four stars out of five. Thanks! | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | broadwaybacker 02:16 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - AlanScott 01:42 am EST 12/21/15 |
| Mathew is indeed "ever-controversial." However, I would not classify him as a pushover by any means. He appears to be more of a contrarian. Just recently, didn't he hate The Color Purple when most of the reviews were raves or very positive? And it goes the other way frequently as well. | |
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| I thiiiiiiiink Alan was being sarcastic. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 02:37 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - broadwaybacker 02:16 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| Seth, who has a pretty well-developed Sarcasmometer | |
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| I was serious | |
| Posted by: | AlanScott 03:36 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | I thiiiiiiiink Alan was being sarcastic. (NM) - Seth Christenfeld 02:37 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| You're usually right about these things, but I am serious about Matthew. Of course, pushover Is perhaps an exaggeration, but it's a word I've used here before to describe Matthew, and I kind of feel it's . . . more true than not. Every time someone here posts that "Matthew Murray doesn't like anything," and I go searching through his recent reviews, I'm started by the high percentage of favorable reviews. (Well, at this point I'm no longer startled.) People who don't read all his reviews but mostly read his reviews of high-profile Broadway shows, especially musical revivals, may have a skewed vision of him as a critic who hardly ever likes anything. But he likes plenty. He probably writes more favorable reviews than a lot of other critics, but I haven't done that kind of comparison. | |
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| I stand corrected and will recalibrate said sarcasmometer. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | Seth Christenfeld (tabula-rasa@verizon.net) 04:03 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | I was serious - AlanScott 03:36 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| Seth, fighting all sorts of lovely crap today | |
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| re: I thiiiiiiiink Alan was being sarcastic. (NM) | |
| Posted by: | MikeR 02:39 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| In reply to: | I thiiiiiiiink Alan was being sarcastic. (NM) - Seth Christenfeld 02:37 pm EST 12/21/15 |
| I took it as Alan admitting that he can be an even tougher critic than Matthew. | |
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| re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times | |
| Posted by: | ryhog 11:57 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| In reply to: | re: Isherwood Likes Fiddler the chief drama critic of the Times - lowwriter 11:37 pm EST 12/20/15 |
| I think the luxury of having an abundance of reviews is that we can assess them in a meaningful way, adding weight to those whose reviews we generally agree with and subtracting it from those we usually don't align with. | |
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